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Subject:Chinese painting with several seals
Posted By: Tim Wed, Jul 08, 2015 IP: 216.27.165.146 Always excited to find a painting with calligraphy and a well painted subject, but when it comes with several nice looking seals...wow! |
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Subject:Chinese painting with several seals
Posted By: rat Thu, Jul 09, 2015 Good quality painting purporting to be by late Ming/early Qing painter Wan Shouqi 萬壽祺 and dating (given his birth and death dates) to autumn 1639. However, checking online reveals a wide variety of hands in works attributed to Wan, so you'll need to do some digging to authenticate this picture. The seal after the inscription is similar to but not the same as another known seal of Wan's. The other seals are collectors' seals. Could be an 18th century picture meant as a birthday present. |
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Subject:Chinese painting with several seals
Posted By: Tim Fri, Jul 10, 2015 Thank you. Wide range auction records and I've been down this road before where a painting is signed in the name of a well known artist, but turns out to be a later copy. with your help, you've cleared a nice path for me to explore. Many thanks. |
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Subject:Chinese painting with several seals
Posted By: Rat Sat, Jul 11, 2015 Check Cahill's Pictures for Use and Pleasure for similar examples/stylistic clues. I suspect this isn't a copy per se but a good anonymous picture to which the Wan inscription was later added. The seals are of interest but not very legible from your photos. |
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Subject:Chinese painting with several seals
Posted By: Tim Mon, Jul 13, 2015 Thanks. I don't own the book, but I see some available through Barnes & Noble, so I'm ordering one today. |
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Subject:Chinese painting with several seals
Posted By: rat Tue, Jul 14, 2015 Yes, that's my general thought. If this is an anonymous work, it's not very likely that collectors' seals would have been applied before the inscription and seal supposedly by Wan were added. The third seal above is by far the easiest to read and includes a collectors' nickname, but that doesn't mean it will identify an individual with known birth/death dates. In any case, I haven't figured out its complete reading yet. Mikeoz, Botan, or Super may be able to read it more easily than me. |
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Subject:Chinese painting with several seals
Posted By: Tim Wed, Jul 15, 2015 I am really pleased that you find the painting so appealing. I am more appreciative of the education that you've so generously provided me (and everyone else who participates in the Forum). |
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Subject:Chinese painting with several seals
Posted By: rat Wed, Jul 15, 2015 Looking back at the first pictures you posted of the painting, it seems that this painting would benefit from a remounting, to repair the horizontal tear and lessen the dot of discoloration, and to remove all the wrinkling. Not cheap though. |
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Subject:Chinese painting with several seals
Posted By: Tim Thu, Jul 16, 2015 Thanks for the info on the exhibition. I'm planning to fly up to NY in August and drive over to Boston to visit family (I'm originally from Boston). So, a trip to MFA is in the works, but I didn't know about the exhibition, so thanks! |
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Subject:Chinese painting with several seals
Posted By: rat Fri, Jul 17, 2015 I'm in Boston myself, therefore unable to detect any trace of your accent.... |
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Subject:Similar style painting but later period
Posted By: Tim Wed, Sep 23, 2015 Rat, |
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Subject:Similar style painting but later period
Posted By: rat Mon, Sep 28, 2015 I don't recognize the artist, who has an unusual nickname, Zhizhi (執之), and I can't read the two characters that may be the artist's full name which follow it. (The seal also reads 執之) |
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Subject:Re: Chinese painting with several seals
Posted By: Stan Thu, Jul 16, 2015 Below are a few examples from the Boston MFA show rat mentioned. I apologize for the quality. I only had my iPhone with me. |
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