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Subject:Help authenticate & age Yellow Chinese Imperial Rice Bowl
Posted By: Nels Gullerud Sat, Dec 19, 2015 IP: 24.73.18.101

Need help authenticating this Chinese Imperial yellow glaze rice bowl. The bowl is embossed with double dragon design exterior and painted blue glaze gold fish medallion interior. Base has 6 character mark. Any additional help or information would be appreciated.

Thanks!







Subject:Help authenticate & age Yellow Chinese Imperial Rice Bowl
Posted By: rat Sun, Dec 20, 2015

sorry but this is a modern fake: the quality of the incised dragon and the interior painting is far too low to be imperial quality, in contrast with the copied Guangxu mark.

Subject:Re: Help authenticate & age Yellow Chinese Imperial Rice Bowl
Posted By: Bill H Mon, Dec 21, 2015

Here are photos of a 4 inch diameter & 2-5/8 inch high Guangxu mark & period bowl, which while not imperial, may help provide some reference points. This mustard yellow glaze is known during the Guangxu period and also shows typical iridescence in glancing light. The white-glazed base has a well-written six-character Guangxu mark but with bubble bursts and granularity evident in the cobalt strokes, also a known condition issue during the period because of the inferior quality of cobalt available to the kilns under the poor economy of the times.

As part of my research of this bowl after buying it a dozen years ago, I sent Sotheby's in New York some photos of it with a request for an auction potential appraisal. Meanwhile, I had occasion to mention what I'd done to the eBay seller, who only then told me the bowl had been owned at one time by the eminent Hong Kong collector Edward T. Chow. I'd been in Hong Kong in May 1981 when Sotheby Parke Bernet was about to hold one of the E.T. Chow sales, so had been able to attend the preview and was a bit incredulous of the seller's contention. A few weeks after my submission, my contact at Sotheby's emailed back to say that the cup was a bit rough in spots for their auctions, though it had been shown to their then Asian Department Chairman and preeminent Asian porcelain expert, the late Julian Thompson, who had agreed that the bowl is mark & period.

Since Thompson had been with Sotheby's Hong Kong when the Chow collection was cataloged under his purview, I had pause to wonder if he might have recognized the piece more than 20 years later as one of his own rejects from those fabulous sales. Never did find out for sure, though.

Best regards,

Bill H.







Subject:Re: Help authenticate & age Yellow Chinese Imperial Rice Bowl
Posted By: rat Tue, Dec 22, 2015

wow, nice post Bill H, very cool. am I right to infer that this is mark and period but not imperial?

Subject:Re: Re: Help authenticate & age Yellow Chinese Imperial Rice Bowl
Posted By: Bill H Wed, Dec 23, 2015

Yep, that's what Mr. Thompson was quoted as saying by his assistant at the time. It was hardly disappointing that the cup failed to meet Sotheby's auction standards, especially considering how the appraisal itself was priceless.

Cheers,

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Help authenticate & age Yellow Chinese Imperial Rice Bowl
Posted By: Nels Gullerud Wed, Dec 23, 2015

Thanks for the help - as always appreciate your attention and willingness to share. That is a nice bowl and a whole different level of quality.

Nels


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