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Subject:Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Sat, May 28, 2011 IP: 24.233.180.172 Oh, what a beautiful rare bowl...This bowl sold for 9100usd on ebay. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Bill H. Sat, May 28, 2011 Is it my imagination or does this poor kid have a left hand growing out of his right wrist? I think they used to banish porcelain painters to somewhere way beyond the Kunlun Mountains for such mistakes in the 18th century. Maybe that's why this bowl is so rare and expensive. Only one that painter ever did. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Gary Mon, May 30, 2011 Fake! |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: peter Sun, May 29, 2011 I wonder how they got past the minimum requirement Ebay has before someone can sell? |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: PyroManiac Sun, May 29, 2011 Er, no. This is a case of buyer having more money then sense. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: LEE Sun, May 29, 2011 Not even a 1900 qianlong replica this one is modern. The color and gilt is all wrong. Probably year 2000 -2008 replica. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Mon, May 30, 2011 You wrote~And, the mark looks pretty neat, like a printer font. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Tue, May 31, 2011 Please click the link and see about the Qianlong vase that was sold for 43 millions pounds. It is not fake as many in here claimed it to be. Each Chinese collector needs to educate themselves. It's not always good to get advice from others The competition is very intense. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Tue, May 31, 2011 Below are the links taken from your own forum discussions concerning the Qianlong vase that sold for 43 millions pounds. The vase is not fake and many in here claim it's fake. Only one exist of this vase model just as the bowl that you claimed it's a mass production of modern replica. Please show me another similar to the bowl! It's the same repetition as you did on the vase and on many item in here. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Anthony J Allen Tue, May 31, 2011 Hi Pati, |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Tue, May 31, 2011 I contacted the seller on ebay. He said the bowl was in a Canadian estate for many, many years. And, he had the bowl inspected by 6 collectors from China and they all agreed that the bowl is from the period of Qianlong. Again, I will not believe that 42 bids were placed for this bowl on ebay and all the bidders were idiots and one could not recognize that the bowl is modern. The seller claimed he had a lot of watchers under his ebay. I'm going to send him a link concerning this post because I feel very bad that I posted the auction in this forum and now his piece is being vandalize. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: PyroManiac Thu, Jun 02, 2011 This is sounding a lot like the infamous Xuande porcelain bowl posted a few months back... with all the many experts that have seen the bowl. Did you know that many of these small professional art experts and services places that authenticate precious antiques get their commission from a positive authentication? It is in their interest to give a positive authentication. I dunno how many times I have experts insists that a marked item is authentic because the marks says so. Thus it must be real. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: phil Fri, Jun 03, 2011 Dear Pati, |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Fri, Jun 03, 2011 All 6 bidders are idiots. In my opinion, This forum is mostly about propaganda simply to vandalize many good pieces and also to discourage collectors from buying through ebay. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Fri, Jun 03, 2011 All 6 bidders are idiots. In my opinion, This forum is mostly about propaganda simply to vandalize many good pieces and also to discourage collectors from buying through ebay. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Bill H. Fri, Jun 03, 2011 Whether it is shill bidding or just unskilled bidding might be the better question. This seller guarantees the vase to be Qianlong-era, but the documented fact is that this form of 'shoulder neck bottle vase' (pinyin: yu tang chun ping - see characters below), did not appear until the Guangxu reign (1875-1908). What's wrong with this picture!? |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Cal Sat, Jun 04, 2011 Pati hon, is common act to criticize messengers when not like message. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Prabhu Kafle Thu, Jun 30, 2011 hey, this is me!! the stupid guy who was arguing about the bowl and yup you guys are right and i learned so much from you guys and handling and looking things and buying and selling them that, am so careful nowadays and really has given me a thought that am a novice and just a learner. But please check out my other things I have posted and tell me what it is? |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Cal Fri, Jun 03, 2011 "I will not believe that 42 bids were placed for this bowl on ebay and all the bidders were idiots and one could not recognize that the bowl is modern." |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Pati Hon Sat, Jun 04, 2011 "Pati hon, is common act to criticize messengers when not like message." |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Gary Sat, Jun 04, 2011 Sorry Patti |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Pati hon Sun, Jun 05, 2011 Now Shakespeare's Quote is used instead of answering my question about the 43 million pounds vase. Why is this vase fake and also the bowl? |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Cal Sun, Jun 05, 2011 Pati, just so future reader not think what you say is genuine, what you said about cut foot, coat foot after firing, gold rim wrong. Also wrong about no lead in enamels. Also any piece can have small damage added to simulate age - often not in natural looking manner. Have seen reproduction works in ceramics and glass were sand-blasted to simulate age pitting, holes drilled in furniture to imitate wormholes, and more. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Sun, Jun 05, 2011 In the middle is a porcelain reproduction image in comparison to two images of the bowl. I've been asking for another example of the same decoration and as perfect as this in order to justify what one of you had said about the bowl. He/she said that the decoration is modern and that he saw similar decoration from UK. Frankly, I search and search again and I have not seen one similar to this bowl decoration or its glaze and enamels. Please show me one and answer my question about the 43 million pounds vase. With all do respect! |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Cal Tue, Jun 07, 2011 The bowl label 'reproduction' is not reproduce or imitate anything old. Is just modern piece not pretend to be anything else. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Sun, Jun 05, 2011 Here is another example for this person who claimed that the bowl is 2008-2010 modern. The reproduction bears a Qianlong mark underglaze blue. The repro is noted in red and the other one is the bowl. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: LEE Tue, Jun 07, 2011 Hi Pati, your bowl is fake. There are many points why it is fake. From the way the mark is drawn to the style and color used in the painting. However lets not argue about it. Why not send pics of it to Christies, Bonhams, Sothebys or Bainbridge auction that sold that revolving vase. Let them be the judge. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: dennis Sun, Jun 05, 2011
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Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Tue, Jun 07, 2011 I most correct this...It's 2000-2008 not 2008-2010 |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Tue, Jun 07, 2011 Hello Lee, |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: dennis Tue, Jun 07, 2011 pati hon, |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Tue, Jun 07, 2011 @ Lee...From the way the mark is drawn |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: dennis Tue, Jun 07, 2011 pati, |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Tue, Jun 07, 2011 @ Dennis~my vase is from 2012-2020. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: dennis Wed, Jun 08, 2011 pati, |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Thu, Jun 09, 2011 @Dennis |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: dennis Thu, Jun 09, 2011 pati, |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Fri, Jun 10, 2011 @ Dennis~This time, I will not accept your advice. You just don't want me to make money. I will send the photos no matter what. Salut! |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: dennis Fri, Jun 10, 2011 pati, |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Fri, Jun 10, 2011 Grasshopper has rest its case! So long to the grandmaster! Mockery has prevailed! |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: pati hon Fri, Jun 10, 2011 @Dennis |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Gary Mon, Jun 13, 2011 Oh Patti!!! |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Bill H. Tue, Jun 14, 2011 Thank you, Gary. I was beginning to think that old threads in a forum, like old wine from a cellar, go sour when open too long. This finding of yours freshens the bouquet around here immensely. :) |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: Cal Tue, Jun 14, 2011 Vendor changed ID again. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: toan Sat, Jul 23, 2011 Can someone alert PATI so that she will not miss the oprtunity of obtaining thi magnificent QIANLONG bowl that she so loved as it has resurfaced on Ebay |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Bowl sold on ebay for 9100usd???
Posted By: PyroManiac Wed, Jun 15, 2011 Wait! I thought Pati said the bowl was not hers? Tsk! Buy a bowl for $9000 and sell for $900 = profit? |
Subject:535 Chinese Porcelain Vase Iron Red Qianlong Mark
Posted By: michael Thu, Nov 07, 2019 can someone tell me what date this is from |
Subject:Re: 535 Chinese Porcelain Vase Iron Red Qianlong Mark
Posted By: Bill H Thu, Nov 07, 2019 Appears to be an early 3rd quarter, 20th century transfer-decorated porcelain vase from China. At that time, most such wares came from Macao and Hong Kong. Similar apocryphal porcelain markings of "Made during the Qianlong Reign" (Qianlong Nian Zhi) from the same period are shown by the gotheborg.com website. |
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