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Subject:Qianlong Vase Soars To Record $85.9 Million! Well-Made Fake�IFive Flaws!
Posted By: GUANGHUI PEI Sun, Dec 19, 2010 IP: 120.42.253.135 Qianlong Vase Soars To Record $85.9 Million! Well-Made Fake�IFive Flaws! |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Vase Soars To Record $85.9 Million! Well-Made Fake�IFive Flaws!
Posted By: Ly Sat, Dec 25, 2010 There're some reasons why a rare treasure turns to be incorrect : |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Vase Soars To Record $85.9 Million! Well-Made Fake�IFive Flaws!
Posted By: Stan Sun, Dec 26, 2010 Ly, |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Vase Soars To Record $85.9 Million! Well-Made Fake�IFive Flaws!
Posted By: Cal Mon, Dec 27, 2010 Or auction house is actual owner of questionable item, make private deal to loan purchase price to buyer if buyer give auction house the buyer's premium up front, and then pay interest on loan. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Vase Soars To Record $85.9 Million! Well-Made Fake�IFive Flaws!
Posted By: LEE Tue, Dec 28, 2010 Based on it's provenance and history, there is only 2 possibilities for this vase genuine Qianlong mark and period or a late 19th century- republic replica. They can be hard to tell between the 2 sometimes. There was a Republic blue and white meiping vase marked qianlong at Bonhams San Francisco that was recently sold for 7.65million USD with reserve of only 6000USD as it was dated republic. Some expert could have questioned the dating of this piece and was prepared to risk buying the piece at a qianlong mark and period price and not accepting the Bonham's specialist's advise that the piece was no older than the 1920's and worth a couple of thousand dollars. It seems that there are a few very rich punters that are willing to pay a lot for very good 1900's qianlong replicas. As for the Bainbridge vase it is hard to tell from a picture . |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Vase Soars To Record $85.9 Million! Well-Made Fake�IFive Flaws!
Posted By: Roger Wed, Dec 29, 2010 It is very possible that some private potters specialize in Qianlong and other replicas similar to the work of Mr. Suio Ko in Henan Province. He claims to be a 30th generation potter and has developed a system to duplicate Sancai pottery identical to that of the Tang Dynasty.Experimenting with wood-fired kilns and various colors of glaze,completed pieces are carefully inspected before burial in Henan soil (as were the Tang pieces),for seven years. The final product is then inspected again for color changes and other considerations, with a final success rate of less than one percent acceptable. The few completed and accepted products command exceptionally high prices and have been mistaken for original Tang ceramics by most experts. Although Mr. Ko produces these products in an honest business and documents the buyers, who knows how many times they will change hands in the next 50 years? In that length of time, the prices will be multiplied with each transaction,current experts may be gone, and the products will reach the auction houses as "authentic" Tang pieces. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Vase Soars To Record $85.9 Million! Well-Made Fake�IFive Flaws!
Posted By: Cal Thu, Dec 30, 2010 Were definitely reproducers Qianlong type ceramics 1980s at Jingdezhen. Complained to magazine article author that publication showed only one side. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong Vase Soars To Record $85.9 Million! Well-Made Fake�IFive Flaws!
Posted By: annonymous Sat, Jul 05, 2014 hi i have a really old decroative satsuma with hand painted gold elephant heads. colbalt blue. rust on bottom. three images on both front and back pics include also side image on both. all images on front and back are outlined, in sequence from bottom to top. small on bottome big pic in middle small pic on top.but everything is gold traced. there are theses wierd patterns throuhout with little white and orange circle bump dots. shows two phesants and flowers that look like stars. and big bluee tree stump with brances in middle pic. these wierd circular designs throughout painted in gold. there are no marks. is there anyone that might have further insight on my piece. thanks!. |
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