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Re: Re: Really great jade pieces or fakes?

Posted By: Bill
Posted Date: Jan 02, 2008 (06:09 PM)

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Hi, Gman:

You raised some good points regarding "crystals".

I no longer really understand what types of criteria those "T & J jade School" in the other forum used in authenticating and dating their jade carvings anymore.

I argued with them that even I agreed with them on the "crystallization" (or weathering) part, so if the crystals are genuine? What will they prove? It proves the jade carvings can be old? How old? Nobody can tell by the degree of crystallization. Many scientists and jade experts had tried to use weathering to date a jade object without any success. Many archaic jade carvings do not have any weathering.
Old weathered jades can be used to made new jade fakes. Therefore, crystallization simply cannot be used to authenticate a jade carving.

Then they tried to say because the quality of carving is great and the jade material used is Hetian jades, therefore these discs must be archaic. These simply do not make any senses, even to a jade novice like me. They cannot even date those discs or explain what their purposes are.

The most funny thing is the owner wanted to convince everybody these discs were excavated from a vault and exported out of China. She couldn't give any details about such excavation with such BIG discoveries (jade discs that were never seen before). What fairy tales.

Thanks for your inputs. I wish Anita sees this and say something.

Bill

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