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Re: Mircea Veleanu

Posted By: Bill
Posted Date: May 01, 2009 (09:08 PM)

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Jon:

Bravo! What an educational message you have posted here.

Are you sure Mircea is a "she" and not a "he"? because it can be the name of either male or female. Do you know that for sure? Thanks.

Just imagine one time MV had offered to teach me about jade in exchange for the time I had spent in researching his/her oil paintings. I guess I was really "lucked" out, otherwise now I would be the proud owner of many "archaic jades" similar to those posted in his/her jade books.

The funny part is how can a jade book writer and self-proclaimed jade expert can be so ignorant and so lazy in not even doing the basic researches in jade topics he is talking about.

He said there were no nephrite jade found or mined in Taiwan or California when I had samples of both in my collection. He claimed there were no archaic Chinese jade carvings that were made of Hetian jade while many jade experts such as Gu Fang said otherwise. It does not take long for one to smell a phony. No wonder when I requested him to send me a free copy of his jade book, he told me I had to buy one myself because he would not give away free book. Luckily I had spent my money in purchasing books written by both S. Howard Hansford and Boda Yang instead of buying his worthless book.

Mr. Boda Yang is probably one of the most respectable jade experts in China. Some of his best works can be found in the www.paragonbook.com and they are must reads for jade collectors.

I found you paragraph regarding "Veleanu perpetuates the false "driftwood" concept that archaic jade must appear defaced or "weathered" by age" of special interest because many Hongshan jade collectors including some in Chicochai also believe all authentic Hongshan jades and archaic jades must have severe weathered surfaces.

Your statement confirmed what I have been saying all along about authentic Hongshan jades:

"When I first started collecting Pre Columbian jadeite, I was amazed to find that the finest pieces carved in "emerald green" (Museum of Natural History, NY, and Mexico City; Dumbarton Oaks Museum, Washington) very often had the luster and polish that appeared as if it had just been done, even though they often were found in the earth, where they had been sacrificed to the gods of fertility and harvest. And even though nephrite is slightly softer and doesn't take a glossy polish like jadeite, I was equally surprised to see pieces, especially white and light celadon ones, that looked equally as pristine from dry tombs in China when I went there in 1986-87."

Many authentic Hongshan jades look like pristine new jade carvings after cleaning with mild soap and water only.

Many jade collectors still believe such jades are modern fakes and the luster found on them are the results of harsh cleaning, waxing or repolishing.

I applaud your profound understanding of jade and I would like to invite you to join the Chicochai jade forum. Recently, we have success in attracting a lot of very serious and knowledgeable jade collectors in joining us. We would be thrilled to have you there so we may share our love in jade. Thanks.

Bill

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Let's compare Mircea's jade qing to a Shang item...... - wingchuntaiji - May 08, 2009 (11:14 PM)
- Need help to see if they are Hong Shan Jade - Chinkang - Mar 16, 2014 (05:27 AM)