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Hi Bill,
The purpose of posting a quiz on a piece of sonorous jade carving was to bring the participation of a lot of people in sharing their knowledge. You like to apologize a lot of being disrespectful, but your arrogant way of posing malicious questions invites for the respondent to justify his position of making a statement. You always claim modestly that you are not a jade expert, however, you are acting as such. I can't lower myself to your level and defend each personal attack you make against myself. You can express your opinion and this represent your personal opinion. As you already revealed that you started collecting jade just a few years ago, you are still a novice. Your jade testing methods were atrocious, boiling, treating with strong acids or alkaline substances, or even washing with water and soap. Anything done as above will destroy the jade substance, or at least will destroy the age patina. You were always confused and in denial of other people's jade pieces value or authenticity. You posted mile long dissertations that even your friends Diasai and Mui did not have patience to read. Your posting of photos of "jade carvings" were of such low quality, that anybody else will be ashamed to post. You were ridiculed in the Forum and I felt compassion for you as I felt that you are trying to learn and communicate your knowledge. Now, you are an expert in Hong Shan jade, cite interviews in Chinese with Chinese officials, cite books printed in Chinese that only Chinese people can read, etc. Chinese language is difficult to understand as there is no translation for the specialty terms, the meanings are not clear and consequently not accepted by the Western readers that can't read Chinese. You are posting 4 photos of Hong Shan style carvings clearly made from bowenite and not nephrite.
What you want to prove by posting these photos??
I don't expect that you will ever purchase any jade carvings that could sell more than $20 and obviously, I would never dream that you would purchase a jade carving that cost $3000, or more. You state with such authority and cite Chinese references that only you and your friend Diasai can read, in regards to how Hong Shan pieces were carved!!. As there are no records of how carving was done in the neolithic period, everything you cite is pure speculation of one writer and expressing a personal opinion. Embracing that opinion with such enthusiasm as you manifest, is simply not comprehensible.
It was in my intention to post several photos of the Hong Shan rhyton with close ups so you could understand how I attributed the rhyton to Hong Shan culture, nevertheless, I am disgusted with your attitude and frankly, I don't give a damn about what you or any other nasty posters believe about my website items for sale. This Forum is not for selling items or promoting antiques for sale and rather for enhancing the knowledge of the members.
Mircea Veleanu
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The learning of Hongshan jades - Roger - Feb 05, 2009 (03:25 AM)