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Re: Chinese? Japanese? Dragon Vase Verte? Help pls.
Posted By: Cal
Posted Date: Apr 20, 2009 (12:05 AM)
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Dave,

Term 'famille verte' is for very fine decoration using refined transparent enamels, late 17th and early 18th century before Chinese began using some opaque enamels introduced from Europe by French Jesuits.

Since then many different-hue green enamels used with other colors, not at all same as 'famille verte'. Just because has some green not mean 'famille verte' decoration.

You can see on base of yours where decoration overlaps. Is printed on using dampened paper that had cobalt-blue pigment printed on to transfer design. In yours, transferred not very well, and design not neatly symmetrical. Design fuzzy with very-quick added surface decoration.

Yours has 6-character Ming dynasty mark on rim but your piece hundreds of years later. Reads (right to left) Da Ming Wan Li Nian Zhi "Great Ming Wan Li Reign made". Not common to see Wan Li reign mark on recent product, but at least is different from the very common Chenghua (Ch'eng hua) mark on recent pieces. Have never seen genuine Wanli reign mark horizontal on outside of piece like yours printed.

Thick molded porcelain can be heavy like white European or USA 'ironstone'.

Could be made Taiwan, Macao, China, Singapore. Might have had a sticker saying where made, if exported.

Think of it as a learning adventure. Are many books you can study to learn history porcelain made in China, some booksellers sell on internet specialize Asian art.

Good luck,
Cal




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