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Re: Re: identify Asian picture

Posted By: Cal
Posted Date: May 16, 2012 (02:35 PM)

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Design on this picture, then, could be woven or embroidered. You can see which by looking at back of textile: if horizontal threads go all the way across, but up and down through fabric, it is woven. If threads go many directions and have knots, it is embroidered.

While it has a Chinese theme, it may be from elsewhere; the persons look drawn by possibly a Westerner.

The cup and saucer: many many millions of excellent-quality porcelain pieces have been made in Japan and exported to West. Many of these were hand-painted in factories where the decorators were paid next to nothing. The glaze quality on yours is not very excellent. While there are persons who 'collect' cup-and-saucer sets, with rare exceptions identity of a factory or distributor name for non-antique export tablewares is not valuable information. Sometimes it is impossible to know, since factories may come and go after short time in business, or a decorating outfit may buy porcelain blanks from (say) Kyoto or the Arita area. Conversely, a distributor may contract-out decoration of export porcelains to various shops. Such blanks also have been sold in fair numbers in the West for 'crafters' to paint.

"Pattern name" is a Western collector/marketer obsession accompanying 'matched' sets such as tableware. Sameness is not a very compelling idea for artist or craftsman, especially where a major aesthetic (as in Japanese-taste tea wares) is the beauty of whatever happens naturally and more or less randomly during the course of firing and cooling. Your plate decoration includes flowers and pavilions. It is possible that some Western marketer or collector somewhere has made up a name to call items with similar decoration. I do not follow such developments.

Good luck,
Cal





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