Asian Arts | Associations | Articles | Exhibitions | Galleries | Message Board



Message Board
Asian Art Forums

AsianArt.com Main Forum Message Index | Back | Post a New Message | Search | Private Mail | FAQ
Group: Message Board
Question about how jade is carved and determining age

Posted By: Tim
Posted Date: Aug 04, 2014 (09:05 AM)

Message
I've read that jade was carved by using string and bamboo covered in filings of gemstone and/or metals to carve jade.

My question is, how much of the filings would you expect to see remaining in the crevices of the jade from the 19th c. versus 18th, 17th, or earlier?

The reason for my question has to do with a jade carving of Chin Chan (three legged toad) that I'm considering buying. Sorry, no photos.

The piece of jade measures about 3" long, 1.5" wide, and about 1" tall. The jade stone (pebble) has retained most of its natural shape, with the carving of the head/face, warts (rendered as rings throughout the body), and legs are done nicely. So, I think the artist deliberately carved the piece modestly to enhance the jade pebble. This is a good sign, right?

Close inspection of the carved areas (the crevices) with my jewelers loop of the carving shows filings that sparkle white under the light of my loop. This is from the remnants of the carving process, right?

So, while the carving looks delicate and pleasing to the eye, the color is very earthy and plain. The jade has a pale celadon color with russet over a portion of the head - kind of an earthy color quality to it. I shined a light behind it, it is translucent and I saw one area (other than the russet spot) where there was a light crystalline inclusion inside the jade.

I'm thinking it is an old piece, perhaps Ming dynasty rather than a Qing period piece, but given how abundant the filings appear in the crevices, I am just not sure. Would the carver take the time to remove the filings after the carving process?

I simply don't have enough knowledge or experience with jade, so I am asking if an expert might shed some light on how much 'sparkling' filings one should expect to see in the crevices of a 19th, 18th, 17th, and earlier piece of jade.

Thank you.





Note that we are now reviewing postings before posting due to the large volume of SPAM and inappropriate postings on the forum. The validation process may take up to 12 hours.
Post a Reply
Name:
Email:
Group: Message Board
Subject:
Message:
Link URL:
Enter here the complete URL of any site, page or image you would like to show other visitors.
URL Title:
Enter here the title of the link you've given above. This will appear to the visitor. Eg., if you are linking another picture, enter "Another picture". The link will not appear without a title.
Image URL:
Enter here the URL of an image if it is already uploaded on the web. The image will appear with your posting. Do not post pictures which are not yours without permission from the copyright holder. It is the responsibility of each poster to make sure they have permission to use any photos they post.
Image: You may upload up to three images. If you would like to upload more images to this message please do so by replying to this same message.

Please make sure the file type is JPEG or GIF and the filename does not contain spaces.





Use the Browse button to find an image (jpg or gif) on a local drive on your computer to upload for including with your message. Do not upload images with file names containing spaces. Please do not upload files larger than 500 KB in size. Do not post pictures which are not yours without permission from the copyright holder. It is the responsibility of each poster to make sure they have permission to use any photos they post. Check the "email notification" box below if you would like to be notified of any responses to your message.
Check here for email notification.
Security Code: Security Image: please enter the text appears in this image.

Please type in the code you see in the image directly above this input box.
Responses:



Asian Arts | Associations | Articles | Exhibitions | Galleries | Message Board