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Subject:Yellow ground ginger jar, lion dog, unmarked, 19th or 20th century?
Posted By: Sally Wed, Mar 11, 2020 IP: 90.240.227.161 Hi, |
Subject:Re: Yellow ground ginger jar, lion dog, unmarked, 19th or 20th century?
Posted By: Bill H Thu, Mar 12, 2020 My experience and information available in Tony Allen's latest book, "Allen's Antique Chinese Porcelain--The Detection of Fakes" points to a Republic Period date of around 1920 or later. Such ginger jars, usually in smaller sizes, were made in great numbers for the decorative wares market. The only ones of that time and later that I've ever seen used for preserved ginger are in the blue and white "Prunus & Cracked Ice" pattern. |
Subject:Re: Yellow ground ginger jar, lion dog, unmarked, 19th or 20th century?
Posted By: Sally Fri, Mar 13, 2020 Thanks Bill, I can see the similarities between the two jars. I see the inside has quite a lot of black markings, is that a characteristic helpful in dating Chinese ceramics ? The book you quote sounds very useful. |
Subject:Re: Yellow ground ginger jar, lion dog, unmarked, 19th or 20th century?
Posted By: Bill H Fri, Mar 13, 2020 My guru Tony Allen has reiterated recently in his aforementioned book on fakes that kiln grit, which is the problem inside my ginger jar, is one indicator of late nineteenth century Chinese porcelain that modern replicators of antique wares have yet to emulate. In 1855, the Taiping Rebels seized the kiln center of Jingdezhen and managed to destroy it before it was recaptured by an imperial army the next year. The damage was so severe, that it took about a generation for the porcelain industry to recover fully from it. Kiln grit was one of the more visible symptoms. |
Subject:Re: Yellow ground ginger jar, lion dog, unmarked, 19th or 20th century?
Posted By: SallySam Sat, Mar 14, 2020 How fascinating , it's always interesting to link history to a physical item, and it's very helpful information towards ascertaining dates. Thank you |
Subject:Re: Yellow ground ginger jar, lion dog, unmarked, 19th or 20th century?
Posted By: john Sun, Mar 15, 2020 Just reading random posts. Great Info / History Bill. Learning Everytime I read a post of yours. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. |
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