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Subject:Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: Mark Fri, Mar 28, 2014 IP: 24.180.194.12 First Hard-stone I've put here. The GONG may go off soon :+) |
Subject:Re: Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: Mark Sat, Mar 29, 2014 Apologies , photos to follow |
Subject:Re: Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: Mark Sat, Mar 29, 2014 Pics |
Subject:Re: Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: Mark Sat, Mar 29, 2014 Another photo |
Subject:Re: Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: Mark Sat, Mar 29, 2014 Pic |
Subject:Re: Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: Mark Sun, Mar 30, 2014 Chicken Bone ( Burnt Jade) |
Subject:Re: Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: Mark Mon, Mar 31, 2014 I don't understand the photo size requirements, Sorry, Hopefully this full shot w/out the lid will be a bigger photo |
Subject:Re: Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: Corey Sat, Apr 05, 2014 Ming dynasty archaistic perhaps? |
Subject:Re: Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: adam Sun, Apr 06, 2014 The use of chickenbone "Burnt" jade and dark staining is meant to give the impression of a Ming piece...However the overall feel is not ming and points to a manufacture around 1900.....Sure I have seen a simiar piece somewhere ...will post again...Adam |
Subject:Re: Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: Adam Sun, Apr 06, 2014 Found it...I would take the valuation with a pinch of salt...I would say 2000-3000 would be a reasonable result... |
Subject:Re: Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: Mark Mon, Apr 07, 2014 I thank you both Adam & Corey. Interestingly I did see that ARS video w/ Lark Mason previously. The vessel shown in the video is a classic archaic revival w/ both its shape and style of surface design. Why I'm a little perplexed by my vessel is the overall design. It seems "classical", All the archaic revival pieces have archaic surface designs as well. Possibly I can post the tubular drill marks (@ least 2 different sizes) that are on mine that point to an earlier designation. The etched grooves that make the design up are well done as you can see. |
Subject:Re: Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: Mark Mon, Apr 07, 2014 Another photo - bottom |
Subject:Re: Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: Mark Mon, Apr 07, 2014 Another photo |
Subject:Re: Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: Corey Tue, Apr 08, 2014 It's a good study object. How long have you been collecting? |
Subject:Re: Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: Mark Wed, Apr 09, 2014 Thank you Corey, |
Subject:Re: Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: Corey Wed, Apr 09, 2014 I din't know that archaistic jade of the Ming dynasty was copied around 1900. The mottling of the jade that adam posted looks natural btw, while it looks as it could be artificially made in the one you have, but this was also made in the ming period. |
Subject:Re: Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: Mark Wed, Apr 16, 2014 Additional Photos |
Subject:Re: Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: LEE Thu, Aug 14, 2014 Hi Mark, your jade vase is old possibly ming from the tool marks. the tubular drill mark on the bottom of the vase is a good sign as well as the string cut mark on the reticulated area with a drill boring hole on your other photo shows that the item was cut using the old technique which was used until the end of the ching dynasty. The black inclusion is due to the jade being roasted in house fire or purposely roasted in a bon fire to create the effect. lots of pieces of jade in the Palace museum in beijing has these effect either from palace fires or from roasting the jade in wood fire. it is hard to tell the difference else. There is also evidence of chipping and wear on your piece so it probably dates to the ming but there were also replica of these in the early and late ching. |
Subject:Re: Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: Mark Fri, Aug 15, 2014 Thank you Lee for your input, Appreciate it. |
Subject:Re: Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: Super Sun, Apr 13, 2014 Please allow me to put in my two cents. |
Subject:Re: Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: Mark Tue, Apr 15, 2014 Hello Super |
Subject:Re: Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: Super Thu, Apr 17, 2014 Hi, Mark: |
Subject:Re: Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: Mark Sun, Apr 20, 2014 Hello Super, |
Subject:Re: Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: Mark Wed, Apr 16, 2014 Thanks for everyones response thus far! |
Subject:Re: Nephrite Jade Chinese , Age? Tool Marks, raised Dragon Phoenix
Posted By: adam Wed, Aug 13, 2014 Dead oak leaf was just one material used to stain jade...The tannins give a dark brown, mercury fumes send nephrite black and ferrous oxides send red...Cant remember more off the top of my head |
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