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Subject:Chinese Bowl Information assistance
Posted By: Vic Blizzard Sat, Aug 27, 2011 IP: 58.179.71.20

I would appreciate information on a reputable valuation agent/company for this bowl. If any one can help with approximate age and orgin of this, it would be greatly appreciated.

I reside in Queensland Australia



Subject:Re: Chinese Bowl Information assistance
Posted By: Bill H Sun, Aug 28, 2011

You may wish to save your money. Your dish belongs to a category of mass-produced utilitarian ware generally refered to as "Kitchen Qing," which I believe in most cases was made for export to Southeast Asia as well as domestic consumption in China.

Such dishes frequently are seen with labels dating them as far back as the Ming era. However, my personal opinion is that most of what you see in circulation these days (besides modern Indonesian and other replicas) probably date no earlier than the first half of the 19th century, with most having been made after 1850. My basis in this view, along with the expertise of others in this forum, is that many common Chinese export wares like this were produced in great numbers in response to the waves of Chinese emigriation that accompanied economic woes in the homeland during the 19th century.

I've included a photo of one of a pair of such dishes that I own. I purchased them about five years ago from a US antique shop for about $75 apiece and have been unable to sell either of them for even a slim profit since. Here also are some links to related previous discussions in the forum:

http://www.asianart.com/phpforum/index.php?method=detailAll&Id=29231

http://www.asianart.com/phpforum/index.php?method=detailAll&Id=3799

http://www.asianart.com/phpforum/index.php?method=detailAll&Id=15363

Best regards,

Bill H.



Subject:Re: Chinese Bowl Information assistance
Posted By: Vic Blizzard Sun, Aug 28, 2011

BiilH,
Thank you for your information and your time. Greatly appreciated.
Kind Regards,
Vic Blizzard

Subject:Re: Chinese Bowl Information assistance
Posted By: Cal Sun, Aug 28, 2011

Bill quite right about this type ware. Some vendors get away with saying made Ming Dynasty because "look old." Even if made 17th century at end of Ming, would have negligible market-price due to hasty potting, firing method and decorated.

These found many parts of world including USA, where Chinese immigrants used as near slave labor for decades 1850s to around World War I period on railroad construction. May also have been made after that, these populations mostly continued to live in same countries using same type dishes.

Subject:Re: Chinese Bowl Information assistance
Posted By: Vic Blizzard Sun, Aug 28, 2011

Thanks Cal,

Appreciate you taking the time to confirm Bill's opinion.

Kind Regards,

Vic Blizzard

Subject:Re: Chinese Bowl Information assistance
Posted By: pierrevdw Sun, Aug 28, 2011

Hi Vic,

If this bowl was found in Australia you can bet your bottom dollar it's from end of 19th century,mass produced, used by migrating chinese gold digging workers or banana benders.

U lucky if you get around 100$ for it.

Have a nice day.


Subject:Re: Chinese Bowl Information assistance
Posted By: Vic Blizzard Tue, Aug 30, 2011

G'day Pierre,

Origin unknown. But thank you for your post.

Kind Regards,

vic

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