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Subject:Help identifying blue and white bowl
Posted By: Apinya Mon, Apr 14, 2014 IP: 49.49.169.10
Any help with the age and origin of this bowl would be great.
Size: Height 2,75" / c. 7 cm
diameter 6,3" / c.16 cm
Both shape and painting I haven't seen before.
Has the mark any meaning?







Subject:Re: Help identifying blue and white bowl
Posted By: wil hugers Tue, Apr 15, 2014
You have a chinese bowl from around 1830 i think from the Desaru a schipwreck.A product from the kilns in Jingdezhen.With simbols for a rich and long live. regards wil

Subject:Re: Help identifying blue and white bowl
Posted By: Apinya Sat, Apr 19, 2014
Hello, Wil
Thanks a lot for your friendly reply. Could the glaze damage being from such a long time in the sea or from the burning process? regards Apinya

Subject:Re: Help identifying blue and white bowl
Posted By: wil hugers Tue, Apr 22, 2014
I have several of these bowls myself,and i see great quality difference between them.Not only in the firing proces but also in the quality of decoration.That time in the sea water can not be the cause.Here are two fotos of bowls from the same scip wreck in a different quality. regards Wil





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Subject:Re: Help identifying blue and white bowl
Posted By: wil hugers Tue, Apr 22, 2014
I have several of these bowls myself,and i see great quality difference between them.Not only in the firing proces but also in the quality of decoration.That time in the sea water can not be the cause.Here are two fotos of bowls from the same scip wreck in a different quality. regards Wil





Subject:Re: Help identifying blue and white bowl
Posted By: wil hugers Tue, Apr 22, 2014
Have another look at that mark.I think that the bowl is older, i think Ming 1368- 1644.This kind of bowls where made from the ming til the late qing period. And the marking is not qing .The bowls i have are from the qing period . regards Wil

Subject:Re: Help identifying blue and white bowl
Posted By: Apinya Fri, Apr 25, 2014
I still believe my bowl is from first half 19th ctr. Manufacturer's (?) mark is hand painted, as it used to be before 1850. At first I thought it was the Chinese Export Mark late Qing, - but hand painted? Maybe someone else who will read our message exchange can tell me. The firing faults could be a sign of late Ming. Against it speaks, however, a foot rim which is not rough and a mark on this kind of dishes.
Thank you very much for showing the pictures. regards Apinya

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