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Subject:Small Hirado plates
Posted By: wil hugers Thu, May 29, 2014 IP: 89.99.4.164
I think Hirado eggschel porselain.Can someone tell me how old they are.I can not find this mark.The diameter is 15 cm. greethings wil







Subject:Re: Small Hirado plates
Posted By: Bill H Fri, May 30, 2014
Your dishes bear the mark of "Made by Zoshuntei Sampo" (Zoshuntei Sampo Zo). The 1882 book of Japanese marks & seals by James Lord Bowes indicates Zoshuntei Sampo (variant "San Ho" used in the book) was being applied as a mark to Hizen (Arita) ceramics as early as 1820. That was well before 1841, when author Louis Lawrence, in his book "Hirado: Prince of Porcelains", says the mark was being used on polychrome wares made by a workshop operating at Mikawachi under the aegis of Arita merchant Hisatomi Yajibei (also spelled Yojibei). James Lord Bowes also refers to use of the mark on a blue & white (sometsuke) cup. I've seen some examples of Arita blue & white copies of Chinese mid-to-late 19th century wares in the "Auspicious Figures with Calligraphy" pattern. Perhaps your plates were a more purely Japanese reaction to the popularity of the Chinese pattern during the late Edo-early Meiji period.

I have a curious Japanese eggshell cup & saucer set in a floral & phoenix motif and with "Zoshuntei Sampo Zo" on the saucer and an apocryphal Chinese Qianlong four-character reign mark on the cup. For comparison, I've uploaded some pictures of the that set, along with a porcelain pot that I think was made to serve as a censer and probably originally had a bronze top sitting on its bronze collar. I believe both probably date to circa the 3rd quarter, 19th century.

Best regards,

Bill H.







Subject:Re: Small Hirado plates
Posted By: Sharon Meredith Sat, May 31, 2014
Was there a related reply to the very colorful piece? I have one somewhat similar in paint style, that is unsigned. would like to just get pointed in the general direction of what it might be as a newbie to collecting (a few years) I have not seen a similar one although i am pretty familiar with japanese porcelains. appreciate any help. Hopefully I can find my way back to this post. Sharon







Subject:Re: Small Hirado plates
Posted By: Guy Fri, May 30, 2014
The mark reads 'Zoshuntei Sanpo zô' (made by Sanpo - Zoshun shop) - Arita exportware, mid 19th century.

See Gotheborg

Guy.

URL Title :Japanese porcelain marks


Subject:Re: Small Hirado plates
Posted By: Mat Sat, May 31, 2014
Hi, this is not Hirado, but Imari by Zoshuntei. The mark says "Zoshuntei sanpo zo". It dates to late Edo - early Meiji.
Regards, Mat

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Subject:Re: Small Hirado plates
Posted By: wil hugers Sun, Jun 01, 2014
Thanks for all your comments.I started to collect japanese porcelain since one year now.But can better first buy a few good books i think.Bil thanks for your clear explanation.And also for the photos.Wil. hugers

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