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Subject:This Is NOT Nephrite Jade
Posted By: Jac Tue, Mar 18, 2014 IP: 218.212.242.167 This is not nephrite jade. No scratch test required. |
Subject:Re: This Is NOT Nephrite Jade
Posted By: Ernest Wilhelm Wed, Mar 19, 2014 Soapstone, or a soft Serpentine, artificially coloured,nicely done. |
Subject:3 Artificially Coloured Nephrite Jade
Posted By: Jac Sat, Mar 22, 2014 All 3 pieces purchased recently, this year. |
Subject:Re: 3 Artificially Coloured Nephrite Jade
Posted By: Dave Sun, Mar 23, 2014 Read more and learn the correct knowledge in differentiating good stuff from junk. |
Subject:Re: 3 Artificially Coloured Nephrite Jade
Posted By: Jac Mon, Mar 24, 2014 The really good stuff sells for a million pounds an inch: |
Subject:Methods of Imitating Ancient Jade Objects
Posted By: Jac Mon, Mar 24, 2014 The following are commonly seen methods of making imitations after ancient objects: |
Subject:Re: Methods of Imitating Ancient Jade Objects
Posted By: Super Sun, Mar 30, 2014 Please DO NOT believe in everything you read about how to make imitation jades especially those come from Chinese sources, some can be real and some are just imaginations or heresays. The important part is to learn how to tell they are fakes and which were made artificially. Of course, this is easily said than done because even the Emperor Qianlong who had so many wonderful archaic jades were fooled by some of the well made jade fakes. Furthermore, just because one has a limited budget does not necessarily mean one cannot obtain some decent jade carvings and just because you can obtain some "Hongshan" jades cheap or some cheap jade junks do not means you are necessarily doing great. Those pieces you show here simply do not have any collector's values. One or two of the Hongshan style pieces you posted previously were actually made of pretty good jade material even though they may not be authentic. Of course, if you are just buying jades for fun, that is all right to do whatever will please you since it is your money after all. My friend had spent about 25k US money buying Neolithic (Hongshan, Lianzhu) and archaic jades from eBay that he valued at 500K US dollars and he is very happy. He even loaned it to the art centers of his city and local university for exhibitions, inviting tons of people to view them. He even wrote a book with his jade collection in it and offered the book for sales at Amazon.com. These days, anybody can publish electronic books easily. He never spend that much money in buying jade reference books written by reputable jade scholars though. I guess his jade knowledge come solely from his collecting experience and internet. He truly believes in his expertise in jade and I will not be the one to burst his bubble. |
Subject:Re: Methods of Imitating Ancient Jade Objects
Posted By: Jac Mon, Mar 31, 2014 Hi Super, |
Subject:Spending more than US$ 100,000 on junks?
Posted By: Super Mon, Apr 07, 2014 You said, "I buy jades for fun and also because I enjoy looking at them and caressing them. Over the last 20+ years I have spent four times more than your friend on jades. All the jades that I own have ZERO collector value as I treat my jade purchases as expenses, not investment." |
Subject:Re: Methods of Imitating Ancient Jade Objects
Posted By: Gary Tue, Jul 22, 2014 Well, I think the lure of Collecting any ancient objects is the hope that we are going to hold something that might have been made many thousands of years ago. Yes, the museums have most everything... but then again, no they don't. |
Subject:'Fake' Hongshan Jade Objects as Art
Posted By: Gary Mon, Aug 04, 2014 Since 99.99999% of all 'Hongshan' pieces that you will see out there are all fake except for those that are in museums; it is my thought that one should look for those pieces that are being made right now which truly are works of art. |
Subject:Artificially Colored Nephrite Jade Bowl
Posted By: Jac Thu, Mar 27, 2014 An imitation nephrite jade bowl with artificial russet patches. |
Subject:Re: Artificially Colored Nephrite Jade Bowl
Posted By: Super Mon, Apr 07, 2014 When you said "imitation" what exactly did you mean? |
Subject:A White Nephrite Jade Lion
Posted By: Jac Sat, Mar 29, 2014 A not so small 15cm white nephrite jade lion with russet patches/streaks. |
Subject:Seller Said Jade, I Said Stone
Posted By: Jac Sat, Mar 29, 2014 I purchased this 8cm piece today, 29 Mar 14, from an arts/antiques shop here in Singapore, for S$150. |
Subject:Genuine Nephrite Jade, Artificial Calcification
Posted By: Jac Wed, Apr 02, 2014 A modern yellowish green nephrite jade cong, with fake/artificial calcification patches. |
Subject:Re: Genuine Nephrite Jade?
Posted By: Super Mon, Apr 07, 2014 I agree that your piece is modern and the weathering on it is artificial, but how did you decide it was made of nephrite? |
Subject:Re: Genuine Nephrite Jade?
Posted By: Jac Tue, Apr 08, 2014 Hi Super, |
Subject:Are These Hongshan Culture Jades??
Posted By: Jac Thu, Apr 03, 2014 All three photos below credited to Poly Auction (Hong Kong) Limited, from their online auction results of an auction on 7 Oct 13 in Hong Kong. |
Subject:This Is GENUINE Hongshan Culture Jade
Posted By: Jac Sun, Apr 06, 2014 This pig dragon pendant shown below IS "my genuine" Hongshan Culture jade sculpture. |
Subject:Injured Animal, Nephrite Jade
Posted By: Jac Tue, Apr 08, 2014 This animal, whatever it is, is made from nephrite jade, right? |
Subject:Jade knowledge cannot be taken away from US
Posted By: Super Sun, Apr 13, 2014 Hi, Jac: |
Subject:This Animal Is A Fuba?
Posted By: Jac Mon, Jul 28, 2014 Since this animal has no horn, it is a Fuba, according to the "Cultural Interpretation" section of the article written by a Postgraduate of History from the Henan Museum on a stone Bixie shown here: |
Subject:Private Collectors Purchase and Donate Magnificent Bronze to Museum
Posted By: Jac Fri, Apr 18, 2014 “As always, it is our duty to be a responsible steward of the important cultural objects that are entrusted to our care.” said Steven P. Murphy, CEO Christie’s, “Christie's feels privileged to have acted as custodian of the ‘Min’ Fanglei and to have facilitated its transfer." |
Subject:Palm Size 12cm C Shaped Dragon, Archaic? Jade?
Posted By: Jac Tue, Apr 22, 2014 Shown below is a 12cm palm size C shaped dragon that looked "rugged and corroded", taken from: |
Subject:Hongshan Culture - Nomadic Tribes? Disappeared Mysteriously?
Posted By: Jac Thu, Apr 24, 2014 The West Liao River valley is situated in the southern region of Northeast China, between the Yellow River valley and the Eastern Eurasian steppe. It was occupied by a diverse sequence of human cultures that were different from both the farming populations of the Yellow River Valley and the nomads of the Eurasian steppe [1]. The sequence of cultures include the Hongshan culture (6500–5000 BP), Xiaoheyan culture (5000–4200 BP), Lower Xiajiadian culture (4200–3600 BP), and Upper Xiajiadian culture (3000–2700 BP) (Figure 1). The Hongshan culture is one of the most advanced Neolithic cultures in East Asia, with social stratification, distinctive painted pottery and elaborate jade ornaments. Archaeological investigations suggest that hunting- gathering was the main mode of subsistence, but they also indicate early use of cultigens in the Hongshan Culture. The Xiaoheyan culture adopted the basic features of the Hongshan culture, but had a simpler social organization. It was followed by the Lower Xiajiadian culture, which was marked by a gradual shift to agriculture and the establishment of permanent settlements with relatively high population densities, while retaining some of the hallmarks of the Hongshan culture [2]. It was replaced abruptly by a radically different culture, the Upper Xiajiadian, which was influenced by the Bronze Age cultures of the Northern China steppe [3]. The mode of subsistence shifted from hunting and early farming in the Hongshan and Xiaoheyan cultures, to advanced agriculture in the Lower Xiajiadian culture, and eventually to pastoral nomadism in the Upper Xiajiadian culture [4]. |
Subject:Black Tiger Seal, Tiger? Black Jade?
Posted By: Jac Tue, Apr 22, 2014 Purchased this animal figurine last Sunday, for S$50. I did not haggle for a lower price because I have a weakness for stone carvings that resemble a tiger. Usually when the seller ask for S$50, I would bargain the price down to S$20 to S$30. This piece, I paid the asking price. |
Subject:Jade Seal With Two Chilongs, Nephrite Jade?
Posted By: Jac Thu, Apr 24, 2014 A square jade seal. Length 7cm, width 7cm, height 8cm. |
Subject:A Modern Red Stone Seal, Dragon Carving
Posted By: Jac Thu, Apr 24, 2014 Height 5.5cm. S$130. |
Subject:A FAKE Han Dynasty Sword Pommel
Posted By: Jac Sat, Apr 26, 2014 This piece is a modern FAKE, COPY, REPRODUCTION, REPLICA, or whatever you like to call it. |
Subject:A Han Dynasty Jade Sword Pommel Cap With Two Chilongs
Posted By: Jac Mon, Apr 28, 2014 Diameter 5cm. Superb workmanship. Fit for display in any reputable museum, in my opinion. |
Subject:Re: A Han Dynasty Jade Sword Pommel Cap With Two Chilongs
Posted By: Jac Sat, Aug 22, 2015 I have re-examined the sword pommel cap shown in my previous post and compared it against unearthed museum pieces shown below. |
Subject:Large Nine Dragon Jade Bi
Posted By: Jac Fri, May 23, 2014 Diameter 28cm. Purchased from the flea market, last year. |
Subject:Genuine Hongshan Culture Horse Hoof Cong? Jade?
Posted By: Jac Wed, Jun 04, 2014 http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/a-rare-altered-opaque-buff-jade-hoof-shaped-5344449-details.aspx#top |
Subject:Re: Genuine Hongshan Culture Horse Hoof Cong? Jade?
Posted By: Super Thu, Jun 05, 2014 The Christie's piece is actually quite nice, please note that it is not a cong but a hoof-shaped ornament, probably not made of nephrite, but made of either bowenite or serpentine. Somebody must believe it was real, since the winner of the lot paid US$22,500 against an estimate of only 4000-6000. |
Subject:3 Hongshan Culture Graves With Hoof Shaped Jade Object
Posted By: Jac Fri, Jun 06, 2014 One hoof shaped object placed above the head - see 1st photo below. |
Subject:A Nice Hoof Shaped Jade Object
Posted By: Jac Mon, Jun 09, 2014 Height 12cm. |
Subject:A Fake Horse Horse Hoof Cong
Posted By: Jac Thu, Jun 05, 2014 This piece is mine but not my genuine Hongshan Culture cong. |
Subject:Two Hoof Shaped Objects
Posted By: Jac Fri, Jun 13, 2014 Can you tell if these are genuine or modern copies, from the appearance alone? |
Subject:Another Modern "Mati" Cong
Posted By: Jac Mon, Jun 30, 2014 Height 14cm. Material looks like nephrite jade to me. |
Subject:Yet Another Fake "Mati" Cong
Posted By: Jac Mon, Jun 30, 2014 Height 11.5cm. |
Subject:A RARE MOTTLED OLIVE-GREEN JADE HOOF-SHAPED TUBULAR ORNAMENT
Posted By: Jac Thu, Jun 05, 2014 http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/a-rare-mottled-olive-green-jade-hoof-shaped-tubular-5298177-details.aspx |
Subject:An Interestng Recent FT Magazine Article on CT Loo
Posted By: Jac Wed, Jun 18, 2014 http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/cd747768-cb46-11e3-ba95-00144feabdc0.html#slide0 |
Subject:!,000 Years Old Bronze Camel For S$10
Posted By: Jac Tue, Jun 10, 2014 S$10 is the actual price. |
Subject:The Han Dynasty left behind abundant cultural relics and over 10,000 tombs?
Posted By: Jac Mon, Jun 16, 2014 http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/archaeologists-announce-rare-discovery-100-han-dynasty-tombs-china-039984#.U52DUmE1I04.facebook |
Subject:All These Ebay Han Jades For Sale Are Imitations?
Posted By: Jac Mon, Jul 28, 2014 Take a look at the white jades for sale from China listed here: |
Subject:Antique Bronze Kettle, Indonesian
Posted By: Jac Wed, Jun 11, 2014 Maximum height 20 cm, body width 18cm. |
Subject:Genuine Excavated Hongshan Culture Hoof Shaped Jades
Posted By: Jac Wed, Jun 25, 2014 First 2 photos by Gary Lee Todd, from: |
Subject:Re: Genuine Excavated Hongshan Culture Hoof Shaped Jades
Posted By: adam Sun, Jul 06, 2014 Interesting with all the "experts" on this site no-one has mentioned these "Hoof shaped objects" have now long been know as objects used in shamanic divination...NOT HAIR ORNAMENTS!! One was found in situ, primed for use, so its pretty conclusive!! |
Subject:A 65cm Jade Statue of A Male Attendant
Posted By: Jac Sat, Jul 12, 2014 In the mid 1990s, I purchased 3 "jade" statues from one of my jade runners - a male standing figure (shown here), a female standing figure and a kneeling male figure which I gave away to my neighbor. |
Subject:An Imitation Sword Scabbard Slide
Posted By: Jac Thu, Jul 17, 2014 Length 6cm, width 3cm, depth 2cm. |
Subject:Soapstones Are Valuable
Posted By: Jac Sun, Jul 20, 2014 http://www.shanghaidaily.com/Feature/art-and-culture/Leave-no-stone-unturned/shdaily.shtml |
Subject:An Imitation Chicken Blood Seal
Posted By: Jac Mon, Jul 21, 2014 I did not know this 13cm seal is a fake blood stone, when I purchased it for S$110 a few years ago. |
Subject:An Imitation Chicken Blood Carving
Posted By: Jac Thu, Nov 06, 2014 Length - 25 cm. |
Subject:An Imitation Hongshan Culture C Shaped Dragon
Posted By: Jac Sun, Jul 27, 2014 Height 31cm. |
Subject:Modern or Ancient Surface?
Posted By: Jac Wed, Jul 30, 2014 Take a look at the jade "phoenix" shown here: |
Subject:A White Jade Cicada Pendant, Han Dynasty?
Posted By: Jac Tue, Jul 29, 2014 Length - 7cm. |
Subject:Re: A White Jade Cicada Pendant, Han Dynasty?
Posted By: adam Fri, Aug 01, 2014 Jac....If you truly paid £1500 for that statue then you were canned...Not worth £50 in my opinion. |
Subject:Modern Cheaper Jades
Posted By: Jac Sat, Aug 02, 2014 Adam .... the price I paid for the 65cm, 40kg statue is truly as stated, not less than $1K, not more than $1.5K, in Singapore Dollars (S$), not £. 1 £ = 2.1 S$. |
Subject:An Imitation Chenghua Doucai Chicken Cup
Posted By: Jac Sun, Aug 03, 2014 A collector from China paid US$36.12 million for chicken cup recently: |
Subject:Museum Han Dynasty White Jade - Genuine Ancient Surface
Posted By: Jac Mon, Aug 04, 2014 First 2 photos - Imperial Han dynasty seal, from museum, not mine. Shown here to train the eyes to see genuine patina on white jade buried in a Han dynasty tomb for close to 2,000 years. |
Subject:Sword Guard, White Jade, Han Dynasty?
Posted By: Jac Tue, Aug 05, 2014 Length - 7cm. |
Subject:Sword Scabbard Slide, White Jade, Han Dynasty?
Posted By: Jac Wed, Aug 13, 2014 Length - 10cm. Width 2.5cm. |
Subject:Fake Hongshan Culture Artifact Valued at US$500,000 For Sale at US$100,000
Posted By: Jac Wed, Aug 13, 2014 Estimated Price: $300,000 - $400,000 |
Subject:The Real History/Origin of The Three Legged Frog
Posted By: Jac Fri, Aug 15, 2014 Before the advent of the three legged money frog/toad, there exist a three legged frog, with no money, possibly of archaic origin, pre Han dynasty, used as a burial artifact, perhaps a symbol of reincarnation. |
Subject:Re: The Real History/Origin of The Three Legged Frog
Posted By: adam Sun, Aug 17, 2014 Those few jades you showed were supposed to prove what? |
Subject:A Three Legged Jade Frog
Posted By: Jac Thu, Aug 21, 2014 Length 22 cm. |
Subject:A Modern Lapis Lazuli Three Legged Money Toad
Posted By: Jac Tue, Sep 16, 2014 Approximately 7cm length X 7cm width X 5cm height. |
Subject:A Modern Agate Snuff Bottle & Seal
Posted By: Jac Thu, Aug 21, 2014 First two images below - agate snuff bottle, height 7.5 cm, width 5 cm. First image illuminated with a torchlight placed below the snuff bottle. S$145. Seller would not sell it for anything less. |
Subject:S$25 Jade Disc With 2 Chilongs - Before & After Cleaning
Posted By: Jac Mon, Aug 25, 2014 The S$25, 6.2 cm Bi that I posted for expert opinion on the thread below has been cleaned for further investigation, to determine if it is modern or antique. |
Subject:Dragon & Phoenix Ornament - A Good Fake or A Cultural Treasure?
Posted By: Jac Wed, Sep 10, 2014 Purchased last Sunday from a flea market rag-and-bones man who sold me two Lapis Lazuli sculptures in addition to this carving. |
Subject:Re: Dragon & Phoenix Ornament - A Good Fake or A Cultural Treasure?
Posted By: Corey Mon, Sep 15, 2014 I have a related one. I would say 19th-20th century. |
Subject:Re: Dragon & Phoenix Ornament - A Good Fake or A Cultural Treasure?
Posted By: Jac Tue, Sep 16, 2014 Hi Corey, |
Subject:An Antique Oxblood Vase?
Posted By: Jac Mon, Sep 15, 2014 Height 27 cm. Centre width 20 cm. |
Subject:An Imitation Sword Guard
Posted By: Jac Thu, Sep 25, 2014 Length - 7.8cm. Quite well carved. S$10, from the market. Study or trial and error piece. |
Subject:Re: This Is NOT Nephrite Jade
Posted By: mikael Fri, Sep 26, 2014 Many years ago i was given a collection of stuff. It consisted of drawings. maps, etchings and some small stone things from/ depicting japan and china. I can date everything from a period between 1780-1820. The small stone (jade?) things (buttons?) i can't date thou. Help anyone? |
Subject:A Man And A Horse, Painted Pottery
Posted By: Jac Wed, Oct 08, 2014 Maximum length - 17cm, height - 15 cm. S$50. |
Subject:Small Dragon & Phoenix Bi With Ancient Tool Mark?
Posted By: Jac Thu, Nov 06, 2014 Diameter - 3 cm. |
Subject:Openwork Jade Carving of Two Chilongs
Posted By: jac Mon, Jan 26, 2015 Maximum length: 9 cm. Maximum height: 5 cm. |
Subject:Round Jade Pendant With Double Dragons & Taotie
Posted By: jac Tue, Feb 10, 2015 Diameter: 7 cm |
Subject:Round Pendant With Two Dragons
Posted By: jac Thu, Feb 26, 2015 Diameter: 7 cm. |
Subject:A Goat
Posted By: jac Sat, Feb 21, 2015 Length: 18 cm. Height: 14 cm |
Subject:Yellow Nephrite? Bao Jiang? Archaic?
Posted By: jac Mon, Feb 23, 2015 Height: 9 cm. |
Subject:Yellow Seated Drummer.
Posted By: jac Mon, Feb 23, 2015 Height: 13 cm. |
Subject:A Large Jade Frog. Yellow Nephrite?
Posted By: jac Tue, Feb 24, 2015 Diagonal Length: 10 cm. Maximum Height: 7 cm. |
Subject:A Jade Cong With Toatie Mask Design Carved in Low Relief
Posted By: jac Thu, Mar 05, 2015 Height: 5 cm. Width: 6 cm. Inner Diameter 3.7 cm. |
Subject:A Fake Liangzhu Cong
Posted By: jac Thu, Mar 19, 2015 Length & Width: 5 cm. Height: 4 cm. Inner Diameter: 3 cm. |
Subject:Another Fake Lianzhu Cong?
Posted By: jac Thu, Mar 19, 2015 Length & Width: 5 cm. Height: 4 cm. Inner Diameter: 3 cm. |
Subject:Illegally Excavated Hongshan Culture Pig Dragon
Posted By: Jac Thu, May 28, 2015 http://www.rn-hswh.com/bbs/thread-117172-1-1.html |
Subject:Illegally Excavated Hongshan Culture Turtle & "Hooked Cloud" Object
Posted By: Jac Mon, Jun 01, 2015 http://www.rn-hswh.com/bbs/thread-117147-2-1.html |
Subject:This Hollow Oval Object Wth A Cicada Is NOT Ancient
Posted By: Jac Sat, May 30, 2015 This object is modern, with imitation white calcified surface, based on my own evaluation. |
Subject:This Toothed Pendant Is Modern
Posted By: Jac Tue, Jun 09, 2015 This toothed pendant, measuring 13 cm X 6 cm, is modern. |
Subject:Is This Pupa Neolithic? Sold For 32,500 EUR In Jun 2013 Paris Sotheby's Auction
Posted By: Jac Sat, Jun 20, 2015 http://www.sothebys.com/fr/auctions/ecatalogue/2013/arts-dasie-pf1307/lot.90.pricehl.html |
Subject:Plain of Jars in Laos - Megalith Congs?
Posted By: Jac Wed, Jun 24, 2015 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_of_Jars |
Subject:A Modern Jade Tube With A Face
Posted By: Jac Mon, Jun 29, 2015 Height: 11.5 cm. |
Subject:Another Modern Jade Tube
Posted By: Jac Tue, Jun 30, 2015 Height: 7 cm. |
Subject:A Fake Hongshan Culture Toothed Object
Posted By: Jac Wed, Jul 01, 2015 This 22 cm toothed nephrite sculpture is modern. |
Subject:These Are NOT "My Genuine" Hongshan Culture Sculptures
Posted By: Jac Fri, Jul 03, 2015 Not a single piece shown at the site below is "my genuine" Hongshan Culture artifact. |
Subject:Metropolitan Museum of Art "Gouyun Pei", Hongshan Culture?
Posted By: Jac Sat, Jul 04, 2015 An object like this can never be "my genuine" Hongshan Culture carving. |
Subject:Re: Metropolitan Museum of Art "Gouyun Pei", Hongshan Culture?
Posted By: Claus Sun, Jul 05, 2015 Jac: |
Subject:MY First Jade Purchase & A Fake Hongshan Culture Turtle
Posted By: Jac Sun, Aug 02, 2015 My first jade purchase, around end 1992 or early 1993 was not nephrite jade - see first two photos below. |
Subject:Chicken blood stone
Posted By: Melissa Sat, Aug 22, 2015 Need more insight and opinion on my family heirloom. Chicken blood stone |
Subject:Re: Chicken blood stone
Posted By: Jac Sun, Aug 23, 2015 Hi Melissa, |
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