Asianart.com | Associations | Articles | Exhibitions | Galleries


Visitors' Forum

Asian Art  Forums - Reply Message
Asian Art Forums

Message Listing by Date:
Message Index | Back | Post a New Message | Search | Private Mail | FAQ
Subject:Large blue white moon flask - please help with time period this was made? Thanks!
Posted By: Vivien Mon, Jan 26, 2015 IP: 69.171.172.191

Hello, I would appreciate any opinions as to what time period this 25 inch tall moon flask was made.

It has an unusual handmade relief carving or molding of a dragon on each side and is all handpainted. The dragons are not identical on each side.

I believe it is export but when? Qing, Republic? it has an apocraphyl? Yong Sheng mark under glaze on the bottom.

The piece was stored outside on a patio by the previous owner so it was exposed to the elements and sun etc. and had a lot of dirt trapped in the relief which I cleaned off the one side for the pictures.

I cannot find any similar examples on the internet, ebay, or past auctions. Nothing with this high quality hand painting and a well carved dragon in blue white, and this size which is 64 cm tall! Thanks for any thoughts.







Subject:Re: Large blue white moon flask - please help with time period this was made? Thanks!
Posted By: Fenn Thu, Jan 29, 2015

In my opinion, with the pictures shown, this dragon moonflask is a Qianlong emulation of a 20th century work. It does not at all emit the subtle beauty and qualities of a period piece.

Post a Reply
Name:
Email:
Group: China & Japan
Subject:
Message:
Link URL:
Enter here the complete URL of any site, page or image you would like to show other visitors.
URL Title:
Enter here the title of the link you've given above. This will appear to the visitor. Eg., if you are linking another picture, enter "Another picture". The link will not appear without a title.
Image URL:
Enter here the URL of an image if it is already uploaded on the web. The image will appear with your posting. Do not post pictures which are not yours without permission from the copyright holder. It is the responsibility of each poster to make sure they have permission to use any photos they post.
Image: You may upload up to three images. If you would like to upload more images to this message please do so by replying to this same message.

Please make sure the file type is JPEG or GIF and the filename does not contain spaces.





Use the Browse button to find an image (jpg or gif) on a local drive on your computer to upload for including with your message. Do not upload images with file names containing spaces. Please do not upload files larger than 500 KB in size. Do not post pictures which are not yours without permission from the copyright holder. It is the responsibility of each poster to make sure they have permission to use any photos they post. Check the "email notification" box below if you would like to be notified of any responses to your message.
Check here for email notification.
Security Code: Security Image: please enter the text appears in this image.

Please type in the code you see in the image directly above this input box.

Subject:Re: Large blue white moon flask - please help with time period this was made? Thanks!
Posted By: Vivien Fri, Jan 30, 2015

Yes, I agree this is likely a twentieth century piece. Probably a Republic period exploration of new ideas (raised dragon on a blue white piece) probably a Hong Kong or other tourist piece catering for western tourist trade, or perhaps a special order.
I cannot find another example with this high quality level of relief work and painting (it is higher quality than recent made pieces, even if it is not done exactly in traditional Qing chinese style, the previous owner had this piece for at least 30 years,and bought it at a local auction back then). Also, this may have been a one time experiment that did not turn out optimally, since this heavy large 64 cm piece does have a significant lean, and gray ashiness in the glaze.
The closest raised example,quality wise , that I can find in days of searching is a "Very Large and Rare Antique Chinese Relief Decorated Bottle Vase With Writing" which sold on eBay Dec 01, 2014 for 20K. It too is not a traditional piece with its raised decoration.
There really are very few examples of quality raised relief decorated figures on porcelain vases or moon flasks out there-it is quite rare.

I will post better pictures, and the bottom view. It really is much bluer than the pictures show. I realize the great emphasis on buying and reselling is primarily on 18th and 19th century home run pieces (or at least pieces that convincingly look like 18th and 19th century, which in reality much of it was made in the 20th century). However, 20th century pieces and republic pieces are collected and sell for respectable sums all the time, just not with as much interest.

Thanks for your reply and help!!


Asianart.com | Associations | Articles | Exhibitions | Galleries |