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Subject:Vintage Ivory Chess Age, origin, and signature help
Posted By: Bill Thu, Feb 19, 2015 IP: 98.219.93.113 I recently acquired the hand carved chess set shown in the below images. I believe it is ivory and of Chinese origin. The kings (shown in the images) are about 4 inches tall. The kings and queens are signed on the bottom. I was hoping someone could translate the signature for me and possibly provide the approximate date of creation. It does very minor nicks and is missing one of the rooks. Any comments as to age, origin, quality, artist, and value are appreciated. |
Subject:Re: Vintage Ivory Chess Age, origin, and signature help
Posted By: Bill Fri, Feb 20, 2015 2 more images. |
Subject:What kind of chess is this? (not Chinese)
Posted By: Super Sun, Feb 22, 2015 I wonder if there is a chess board you can post a picture of it here. |
Subject:Re: What kind of chess is this? (not Chinese)
Posted By: Bill Mon, Feb 23, 2015 Hi, Thanks for the reply. I think we have a misunderstanding. I did not mean that this chess set made for playing "Chinese Chess". What I intended to convey that I believed the set was manufactured in China, most assuredly for export. My guess is the early 20th century but that is just a guess on my part. I have added a picture of the board / box. |
Subject:Re: What kind of chess is this? (not Chinese)
Posted By: j lewis Mon, Feb 23, 2015 The shreger lines on the bases seem to indicate these are ivory. |
Subject:Re: Vintage Ivory Chess Age, origin, and signature help
Posted By: Jim Mon, Feb 23, 2015 The set is obviously ivory and almost certainly Chinese, the Schreger pattern being clearly evident in two of the photos. Figural queens repeatedly appear in Chinese chess sets attributed to the 16th through 20th centuries. Pawns are often shown as individually carved figures, enhancing the value of a set. |
Subject:Re: Vintage Ivory Chess Age, origin, and signature help
Posted By: Bill Tue, Feb 24, 2015 J Lewis and Jim Mon, |
Subject:Re: Vintage Ivory Chess Age, origin, and signature help
Posted By: Jim Wed, Feb 25, 2015 It's hard to judge the age, the case does not help. I have exactly this case with a fitted Chinese puzzle ball set, and have seen several more with different sets. I think the cases were made and sold for fitting much later than the sets. I certainly can't fault your estimate of age. |
Subject:Re: Vintage Ivory Chess Age, origin, and signature help
Posted By: Bill Thu, Feb 26, 2015 Hi Jim, |
Subject:Queen piece in a Chinese chess set?
Posted By: Super Wed, Feb 25, 2015 Since I had admitted that I was not an expert on ivory, therefore I stand corrected if these chess pieces were indeed made of ivory. However, I respectfully disagreed that the Queen piece could be found in a Chinese Chess Set, unless they are actually European Chess Sets that were made in China. Please show me such a Chinese chess set with a queen piece. China is a paternal society and to have a queen piece on its chess set is a little bit far fetched to me. Of course, I could be wrong. |
Subject:Re: Queen piece in a Chinese chess set?
Posted By: Bill Thu, Feb 26, 2015 Hi Super, |
Subject:Re: Queen piece in a Chinese chess set?
Posted By: Super Fri, Feb 27, 2015 Hi, Bill: |
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