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Subject:Who knows what this mark means?
Posted By: Henk Thu, Mar 05, 2015 IP: 77.251.108.116
Who can tell me what the maker is off this dish is?








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Subject:Re: Who knows what this mark means?
Posted By: Arjan Thu, Mar 05, 2015
Hallo Henk,

This is hard ... the link doesn't work and the pictures are (to) small. With a lot of fantasy .... maybe somthing like "Kaga Kutani Watano sei" To be sure better photo's are needed.

Regards,

Arjan

Subject:Re: Who knows what this mark means?
Posted By: Art Fri, Mar 06, 2015
Made by a Company " Toshi Zhoa ". Most like late 19th.

Subject:Re: Who knows what this mark means?
Posted By: Bill H Fri, Mar 06, 2015
I believe the mark may read down and across from the right as "Kaga Kutani Watano Sei" (Made at Kaga, Kutani [region] by Watano). The foto fuzz factor clouds the 2nd character in the left stack too much to read it with certainty. I believe this character might help identify the Watano generation responsible for the piece, though I don't have the references to on hand to determine those dates in any event. The painting is consistent with the Meiji period (1868-1912). Ormolu mounts on the piece probably were added by an owner.

Best regards,

Bill H.

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Subject:Re: Who knows what this mark means?
Posted By: Bill H Sun, Mar 08, 2015
Based on the below photo, I believe the kanji in Henk's mark is as follows:

加賀九谷 - Kaga Kutani
綿野製 - Watano Sei

Perhaps Arjan or another of our astute Japanese collectors knows where this fits date-wise among the various Watano marks.

Thanks,

Bill H.

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Subject:Re: Who knows what this mark means?
Posted By: Arjan Mon, Mar 09, 2015
Hi all,

Poster send me a few beter photo's and I think our "guess" of "Kaga Kuntani Watano sei" was/is right. The forelast character (No) seems different from what we see most but this is probably caused by the fact that the 3 generations of Watano used 3 different characters for the "no".

Regards,

Arjan





Subject:Re: Who knows what this mark means?
Posted By: Henk Thu, Mar 12, 2015
Thanks for the information

It helped me a lot.

best regards,
Henk

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