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Subject:Metropolitan Museum of Art "Gouyun Pei", Hongshan Culture?
Posted By: Jac Sun, Jul 05, 2015 IP: 118.189.212.174
An object like this can never be "my genuine" Hongshan Culture carving.

There are quite a number of genuine "guoyun pei" unearthed legally from Hongshan Culture graves for comparison.

This piece does not have the right form & size and its surface does not look old.

The pits on its surface - do they not look natural or artificial?

http://www.metmuseum.org/collection/the-collection-online/search/75244

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/works-of-art/2009.176

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Plaque in the shape of a squarish loop with projections, ca. 3500–2000 B.C.
China, Hongshan culture
Jade (nephrite)
H. 3 in. (7.6 cm)
Purchase, The Vincent Astor Foundation Gift, 2009 (2009.176)

This handsomely crafted plaque is one of the rarest examples of jade from the Hongshan culture of Neolithic China (ca. 3500–2000 B.C.), whose jade carving remained unknown until the 1980s. Hongshan jades show an extraordinary command of the material and the techniques of carving it. They are characterized by their intriguing shapes, great attention to detail, phenomenal subtlety of surface, and engaging tactile quality, all of which are well demonstrated in the elegant form, fluent lines, subtle luster, and smoothly modulated grooves of this plaque.

Large ceremonial structures built with rocks and graves lined with stone slabs have been excavated at Hongshan sites in northeastern China. Jade seems to have played a particular role in the culture; most, and often the only, artifacts found in Hongshan burials are jade. Many Hongshan jades are ornaments of some kind: they are either bracelets or pendants or they have fixings or holes that would allow them to be attached to the body or to clothing. But the exact function of several other types, this plaque among them, remains a mystery.




Link :Plaque in the Shape of a Squarish Loop with Projections (Gouyun pei)


Subject:Taipei National Palace Museum "Gouyun Pei", Hongshan Culture?
Posted By: Jac Thu, Jul 09, 2015
Hooked cloud-shaped jade pendant, from The National Palace Museum, Taipei, Taiwan.

http://libcudl.colorado.edu:8180/luna/servlet/detail/ChineseArt-ENG~1~1~2483~1492014:Hooked-cloud-shaped-jade-pendant







URL Title :Hooked cloud-shaped jade pendant


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Subject:A Modern Copy of A Museum Copy
Posted By: Jac Wed, Jul 29, 2015
The photos of the "Gouyun" pei shown below is taken from this site:

http://www.rn-hswh.com/bbs/thread-118494-1-1.html

This piece is modern to my eyes, as it is nowhere close in appearance to the genuine unearthed Hongshan Culture "Hook & Clouds" jade objects shown here:

http://www.asianart.com/phpforum/index.php?method=detailAll&Id=88658

What I learned from this object is that the present day forgers are able to fake shinny metallic spots/flecks shown on the bottom photo.









Subject:Another Copy of A Copy
Posted By: Jac Tue, Aug 11, 2015
Photo taken from:

http://www.artnet.com/Magazine/features/stern/stern3-16-01.asp

http://www.artnet.com/Magazine/features/stern/stern3-16-3.asp



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