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Subject:Old Chinese Painting on Thin Fabric
Posted By: John Alfred Wed, Nov 30, 2016 IP: 2602:0306:c4f3:0300:

I do have an old Chinese painting, or print (?). The reason I call it hand painted, I cant find any dots under magnifier. The unusual part is, it is not mounted. The painting and the frame is in one piece of fabric. I put some pictures from the front and back sides. There are 2 stamps but the color is faded. But for sure, judge by the kind of fabric and the aging signs, it is at least 75 years old. Any body have more knowledge about this piece?







Subject:Re: Old Chinese Painting on Thin Fabric
Posted By: mikeoz Thu, Dec 01, 2016

This painting has been mounted, but in the Chinese manner, as a scroll.

The title is "Autumn Mountains and the sound of the water in the spring"

The painting is dated the sixth year of the YongZheng emperor (1729), a Spring day.

The artist's name may be Zheng 鄭, but I'm not sure.

Master Rat will have more to say.

Subject:Re: Old Chinese Painting on Thin Fabric
Posted By: rat Thu, Dec 01, 2016

Just to clarify, you are saying that there is no seam of any kind between the landscape image and the surrounding patterned border, it's all just one flat sheet? Rather peculiar if that is the case, but also confirms my thoughts below.

Despite the repairs to the back of the roller at the bottom and the top slat, I think from these photographs that this is quite recently made but distressed to give it some appearance of age. The inscription titles the picture "listening to the waterfall in the autumn mountains" and claims that this picture dates to the Yongzheng reign (early 18th century), but the style of the picture says otherwise: that it is a late 20th century printed image. There are a lot of similar printed landscapes composed of rock forms with the same short black dashes indicating mountain creases and then overlaid with sections of color. the web of long darkish lines visible all over the unpainted picture surface is artificial. No actual Chinese paintings have such lines.

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