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Subject:How old is this jade?
Posted By: Corey Fri, Mar 28, 2014 IP: 193.169.154.225
I recently stumbled upon an article from a chinese newspaper with an image of a green jade ornament quite similar to one I own, but made in a yellow jade pebble material.

Unfortunately there is no desription of the images in the article, so if someone here has any idea of what dynasty it belongs to, or has a reference to a similar one, it would be awesome!

Thank you very much!

/Corey





Link :China daily - Jade article


Subject:Re: How old is this jade?
Posted By: adam Sat, Mar 29, 2014
Qing dynasty archaistic...18th-19th Century.... (Appears to be a nice jadeite but due to bad colour scale could just as easily be a nice nephrite)

Subject:Re: How old is this jade?
Posted By: Ernest Wilhelm Sun, Mar 30, 2014
Perhaps show sharp photos of your little treasure.
Ernest

Subject:Re: How old is this jade?
Posted By: Corey Mon, Mar 31, 2014
I was also thinking Qing dynasty when I bought it, but the one I have seems to have been cleaned of a surface calcification plus the kind of scroll decorations are also seen on jades from the Song and Ming dynasties, so all in all I think it might be older.

I don't think the one shown here is made of jadeite. Jadeite and nephrite are quite easy to tell apart beacause jadeite always has glassy luster while nephrite has a waxy luster, but it can be off cause be difficult to tell from a photopgraph.

The material looks similair to the Qianlong seal sold at Bonhams. I like this lush green translucent jade material a lot.




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Subject:Re: How old is this jade?
Posted By: Ernest Wilhelm Tue, Apr 01, 2014
This could well be Russian Jade
Ernest

Subject:Re: How old is this jade?
Posted By: Corey Fri, Apr 04, 2014
Was russian jade used in China in the 18th century?

Subject:Re: How old is this jade?
Posted By: Ernest Wilhelm Sat, Apr 05, 2014
I read that the Russian Jade was in use during the 19th Century
Ernest

Subject:Re: How old is this jade?
Posted By: Corey Wed, Apr 09, 2014
It could also be canadian jade which has been exported to China for at least two centuries. But I belive a smiliar kind of jade also comes from Taiwan although I'm not sure.

Subject:Re: How old is this jade?
Posted By: Ernest Wilhelm Thu, Apr 10, 2014
Canadian Jade and Taiwanese Jade look somewhat similar, but the Russian Jade in general looks better. Exception: Polar Jade.
Ernest

Subject:Re: How old is this jade?
Posted By: Corey Mon, Mar 31, 2014
Unfortunately my digital camera is more than ten years old and I have to change batteries for every five good photos I make so I don't really use it. I have a print of the sellers photo that I can scan, but it's probably gonna be a low qualty image.

Subject:Re: How old is this jade?
Posted By: Super Mon, Mar 31, 2014
To try to attribute any jade carvings based on a single low definition picture is foolhardy

Subject:Re: How old is this jade?
Posted By: Ernest Wilhelm Sat, Apr 05, 2014
Compare with #1214 in Christie's catalog of 19 September 1013. This one did not sell !!

Subject:Re: How old is this jade?
Posted By: Corey Mon, Apr 07, 2014
Thanks you very much. Nice One! Much appreciated.

Have a beautiful day.

Subject:Re: How old is this jade?
Posted By: Corey Tue, Apr 08, 2014
Have you got the physical catalogue? The fact that this lot was the only one that didn't sell is not a good sign. Was the carving identical or just "comparable", and what color was the jade? Also what century was it dated to?

The Lizzadro Collection is a very importent collection btw. Yesterday I was very happy to own a jade similar to one of his, but I dont think I'll buy the catalogue though. I'm more focused on the one shown her, what collection it's from and what book it's depicted in, etc..

Subject:Re: How old is this jade?
Posted By: Corey Thu, Apr 10, 2014
The motive is a representation of the ancíent imagination of a dragon emerging from a cloud, btw.


Subject:Re: How old is this jade?
Posted By: Corey Sat, Apr 12, 2014
Found lot 1214 at artvalue.com. That one doesn't look similar to the one shown here at all. The one I have and the one here are nearly identical.


URL Title :Lot 1214


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