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I am still learning Chinese hallmarks and cant figure this one out. Is this a true Qing mark or a 20th century hallmark. The vase has good detail Any information about the mark and what the scene depicts will help.

There are no markings shown, but the vase depicts the three Daoist Star Gods, Fuxing (Wealth), Luxing (Happy home life) and Shouxing (Longevity). They usually are depicted in the midst of bestowing their blessings to deserving disciples. Hard to say what else might be happening on this vase. The painting style strikes me as being of the Republic Period (1912-1949) or later, but perhaps Tony Allen will have something else to say on that point.

Best regards,

Bill H.

Looks like a modern replica of a republic vase. you get them in eBay and even in auction houses in America. they are usually sold undated. The painting is usually clumsier than the original. The faker will buy or borrow a original and try and replicate it from the foot to the up. the color the wear every single aspect of it. some are replicated with flaking glaze and even undulating orange peel glaze. The best ones will even fool the best experts. They are brought to the west by agents and sold in auctions, to fool the unsuspecting collector. Some can sell for many thousands.

Ok here are some more photos. Can anyone confirm its a replica or real if not real what value. Thanks.

As to your query of real or fake, the depiction of "The Eight Immortals on the Waves" became a standard pattern for Chinese Daoists ages ago. It is part of what the New York Metropolitan Museum of Art calls the Chinese tradition of "Design Continuation".

Some might argue that the reign mark was meant to fool potential buyers about the age of the piece, but Taiwan professor and author Liu Liang-yu seems to me to be saying in his Survey of Ch'ing (Qing) Official and Popular Wares that Chinese consumers demanded such marks on their Chinese-taste porcelains as a kind of status symbol. However, there are plenty of modern Chinese porcelain makers and sellers who indeed are out to deceive buyers with copies or imitations of antique wares and styles.

Here are images of another take on your vase's pattern from about the Republic Period or possibly later.

Best regards,

Bill H.

This is a link to more photos of the vase and mark.

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on looking at your other photos on the eBay website I suspect it is late republic period

So when you say late republic would that be the 1940's. Also what about the mark can anyone tell me about the mark. Thanks for all your help.

The qian character on the qianlong mark has two 2 strokes rather than a S and a 2 stroke in the typical 18th century mark. This is usually a indicator that it is made in the 1940s or later, when it is not so necessary to totally duplicate a 18th century piece as most folks at the time are either too poor to collect or are too smart to be fooled. The earlier republic replica have a more exact typical 18th century qianlong mark and are harder to tell from the 18th century originals. they are like the first class modern replicas that can even fool a expert, where lots of effort is put into producing a perfect fake that can sell for thousands if not millions. They are the good times prosperous replicas to fool the monied.

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