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Subject:Japanese Cloisonne Makers Marks
Posted By: Howard Dennis Sun, Mar 20, 2016 IP: 73.216.185.109 I'm traveling and don't have any way to post pictures but maybe someone can help me anyway. Just acquired 2 miniature vases with the most incredible micro detail I've ever seen. The bottoms have bright red marks that I can't tell if it is red lacquer brush strokes or wireless. I can best describe the mark as Mt. Fuji or an inverted V with a line or Ichi stroke underneath. I spent the night online but all traces of makers marks seems to have been pulled off the net?? Maybe someone has books or copies of the marks that were online last year? |
Subject:Re: Japanese Cloisonne Makers Marks
Posted By: Howard Dennis Fri, Mar 25, 2016 No one has a book with Japanese Cloisonné Makers marks they can look in to help out a fellow collector?? |
Subject:Re: Japanese Cloisonne Makers Marks
Posted By: Howard Dennis Fri, Mar 25, 2016 Here's the best I can do with a cell phone. |
Subject:Re: Japanese Cloisonne Makers Marks
Posted By: Bill H Sat, Mar 26, 2016 Well even if we do have a book, experience with others lacking patience around here suggests it's wise to wait until you get home and post photos so we won't have to consult the book more than once on your behalf. |
Subject:Re: Japanese Cloisonne Makers Marks
Posted By: Bill H Sun, Mar 27, 2016 The only time I recall seeing that mark anywhere was in this brief and inconclusive forum thread. The mark (亼) is not a regularly used Japanese or Chinese character as far as I know, although it is an alternate form of the Chinese 集 (ji), meaning "to gather". Perhaps someone else has a fresh idea. |
Subject:Re: Japanese Cloisonne Makers Marks
Posted By: Howard Dennis Sun, Mar 27, 2016 Bill, That's the mark, Thanks for posting it but boy what a difference in quality and subject matter. Mine purely Japanese subject, no bubbles, detail so small I need magnification to see it all and silver wire construction, literally worlds apart from the Egyptian motif vase. |
Subject:Re: Japanese Cloisonne Makers Marks
Posted By: Claus Tue, Mar 29, 2016 The mark could also be Korean 스 but that's just a guess. I passed a Korean restaurant today and saw this character on a sign and remembered the posting on the forum. |
Subject:Could we actually see the vases sometime?
Posted By: beadiste Tue, Mar 29, 2016 Even if it's just a couple more cellphone pix. |
Subject:Re: Japanese Cloisonne Makers Marks
Posted By: Howard Dennis Tue, Mar 29, 2016 Got this remark on a forum for Japanese swords and other antiques: |
Subject:Re: Japanese Cloisonne Makers Marks
Posted By: Howard Dennis Wed, Mar 30, 2016 I was waiting till I could show the incredible tiny detail on the neck and bottom but this is the best I can do with a phone. |
Subject:Awesome! Thanks.
Posted By: beadiste Fri, Apr 01, 2016 They look so monumental - as if they ought to be much larger pieces. Lucky you! |
Subject:Re: Japanese Cloisonne Makers Marks
Posted By: Howard Dennis Wed, Mar 30, 2016 Just got 2 more pictures. The vases are 5 3/4 inches tall and the top and area on the bottom in these pictures is just slightly larger than a quarter! To show how incredibly small the detail is I didn't even see the ying/yang circles until I took these pictures. This is the kind of detail I love about Japanese artwork. |
Subject:Re: Japanese Cloisonne Makers Marks
Posted By: Howard Dennis Tue, Feb 19, 2019 Got the "Family Mark" response to my quest for translation a while back and it seemed likely until this showed up on the internet. A pair of larger vases with almost identical themes have a very similar mark and label on the bottom as mine and yet I'm positive they have never been together except maybe when they were made. |
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